Car seat for Porsche 993 (911)

[JPS911]

Anyone know which carseats will fit in the back of a Porsche 911 (1995 993 model) convertible?

Thanks,

	Convertible Car Seats Convertible seats are for infants and toddlers. The seat can be used as a rear-facing seats for younger children, and switched to a forward-facing seat on the child's first birthday if the child weighs at least 20 pounds. However, experts recommend keeping the child in a rear-facing position until he or she outgrows the weight or height allowed by the safety seat.

[JPS911]

Anyone, anyone?

I think the Britax Diplomat will fit front facing, but I can't find a suitable top tether mounting point.

A) Is it ok to mount without the top tether?
B) Any other thoughts on suitable seats?
C) Any thoughts on a suitable tehter mounting solution?

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	Britax Diplomat - Click for more info The Britax Diplomat convertible car seat is a smaller version of the Britax Boulevard. It offers the same general features and Side Impact Protection as the deluxe Britax Boulevard convertible seat, but with a lower max weight capacity, seat height, and seat width than the Boulevard. The Diplomat provides top notch Britax safety and comfort for your child, even in the back of a 'lil Mini Cooper.

	Top-Tether A top tether (or top strap) is the supplemental attachment now standard on almost every new carseat in the USA. Top tethers can be used with either the seat belt or with the lower anchors (as part of the LATCH system). In other countries, their use may be required by law. A top-tether is simply a strap that connects the top of the carseat to an anchor mounted in the vehicle at a location behind the carseat, usually the parcel shelf or a point on the floor of the cargo area. It is designed to prevent the forward movement of the top of a forward-facing carseat in a frontal crash. This reduces the head excursion of the child, and can reduce the chances of injury. Almost all current carseats can only meet the tougher new federal safety standards when the tether is used, even though they must still meet the minimum safety standards without a tether.

[SusanMae]

It doesn't look like it has top tether anchors or a retrofit kit. So the answer would be no..you can't top tether a forward facing seat.

Yes--it's ok to install without a top tether. In the US carseats have to pass the crash test with a lap belt only to be certified.

I believe, I've read that someone has gotten the bigger britax seats in a porshe little something or another.

Since there is no tether anchor available and there is no approved retrofit--you're only option is to not be able to top tether in that car.

Susan

	Forward Facing Car Seats A forward-facing car seat is one in which the child sits facing the front of the car. The seat should be installed in the back seat of your vehicle. Most forward-facing only seats are for children above 20 pounds.

	Britax - Click for more info Britax International has been producing reliable child safety products for over 30 years. Not only does Britax have decades of experience creating car seats and other children's safety equipment, Britax has a long standing reputation as an industry leader and innovator. Britax International is headquartered in the United Kingdom, but Britax car seats are designed and manufactured at facilities in Germany, Austria, and the United States. In the summer of 2002, Britax strengthened their commitment to creating the safest car seats with the opening of a brand new, state-of-the-art crash testing facility in North Carolina. Britax car seats have a reputation around the world for being some of the safest, most reliable, and best designed child safety seats ever made.

	Top-Tether A top tether (or top strap) is the supplemental attachment now standard on almost every new carseat in the USA. Top tethers can be used with either the seat belt or with the lower anchors (as part of the LATCH system). In other countries, their use may be required by law. A top-tether is simply a strap that connects the top of the carseat to an anchor mounted in the vehicle at a location behind the carseat, usually the parcel shelf or a point on the floor of the cargo area. It is designed to prevent the forward movement of the top of a forward-facing carseat in a frontal crash. This reduces the head excursion of the child, and can reduce the chances of injury. Almost all current carseats can only meet the tougher new federal safety standards when the tether is used, even though they must still meet the minimum safety standards without a tether.

[JPS911]

Thanks Susan. Anyplace you can direct me as far as the install on the 911 cabriolet? They changed in 1995, so previous years are a little different.

Question for you...as long as the lap / shoulder belt install is getting the seat tight enough to pass the "no more than 1" side to side at the belts" test, is their any disadvantage to finding a secure tether spot? Seems like it can only provide benefit having the extra security, as long as it is extra security and not a primary anchor point?

Thanks in advance,

Jos

[Papooses]

Originally Posted by JPS911

install on the 911 cabriolet? They changed in 1995, so previous years are a little different.

The major difference with older vehicles is that the seat may be too contoured to correctly fit the majority of carseats or it may have seatbelt buckles that are forward of the bight -- the vehicle seatback & bottom cushion meet -- I don't know for sure with this specific vehicle.... Just something to look out for (remember to call the toll free customer service numbers for assistance until you can make an appointment with your local CPST)

is their any disadvantage to finding a secure tether spot? Seems like it can only provide benefit having the extra security, as long as it is extra security and not a primary anchor point?

The risk of injury from projectiles would probably increase A non-standard tether point for a forward-facing seat could rip out during a crash. The hard metal hook on the tether itself & possibly hard/sharp pieces of the vehicle could then fly with crash force speed at your family

Just follow the instructions & make sure the carseat is locked in securely + correctly.

	Forward Facing Car Seats A forward-facing car seat is one in which the child sits facing the front of the car. The seat should be installed in the back seat of your vehicle. Most forward-facing only seats are for children above 20 pounds.

[JPS911]

So I guess as long as it is secure, it is better to have the tether than not, but if one can't find a good spot, don't bother with the tether and make sure the seat meets the other requirements (1" side to side, doesn't tip over if the belts are too forward of the bight, etc)?

[Papooses]

Originally Posted by JPS911

So I guess as long as it is secure, it is better to have the tether than not, but if one can't find a good spot, don't bother with the tether and make sure the seat meets the other requirements (1" side to side, doesn't tip over if the belts are too forward of the bight, etc)?

You got it + you can always use the bottom link in my signature to find some local techs just to double check your work